Alex,

If someone came along with big ice cream scooper and scooped up the whole universe, waived a magic wand and the universe - including space - were to vanish as if it had never been, would there still be anything left that we can say exists? If nothing exists, then what happens to math? If math exists, then you agree that material things are not the whole of something. This is the premise of an afterlife. There is more to an individual than our body, such as there is more to the universe than matter.

Warm regards, Harv

• Harvey , ice cream scooper also obeys math. - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 15:05 UTC
  • So then you admit - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 15:18 UTC
    • There is no logic here. - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 15:31 UTC
      • Your position is a metaphysical position - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 16:25 UTC
        • Harvey, it sems that actually YOUR position is metaphysical. - alexander - October 18, 2001 - 16:59 UTC
          • Reduce this further - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 17:35 UTC
      • Metaphysical laws of nature... - smartguy - October 18, 2001 - 16:57 UTC
        • You grasped what I'm saying - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 17:12 UTC
          • I see...(nt) - smartguy - October 18, 2001 - 17:27 UTC
        • Metaphysical speculation - pmartin - October 18, 2001 - 18:25 UTC
          • Some sophistication added? - harvey1 - October 18, 2001 - 18:40 UTC
            • Definitely added; thanks for calling it sophistication. - pmartin - October 18, 2001 - 21:03 UTC
              • Oops! Time warp. - pmartin - October 18, 2001 - 21:13 UTC