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Yes, Physical And Mathematical Existence Is The Same Thing.

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Posted by Alexander on October 2, 2001 23:54:45 UTC

How does math start? By assigning symbols to objects (and to their properties) and calling those symbols numbers. It may seem to be a human task. But nature already did most of it: any object in nature (including universe) either exist or does not. This property lends itself to be labeled as yes/no or 1/0, and that is HOW math starts.

So, math (existense/inexistence) is NOT human invention - it exists objectively. That is why the result of math (addition, multiplication, algebra, calculus, etc) corresponds correctly to reality (=universe is mathematical) - because it (result) follows from fundamental property of objects of reality to exist/not exist.

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So then... - harvey1 - October 3, 2001 - 00:44 UTC
- Conceptually - yes. - alexander - October 3, 2001 - 03:33 UTC
  - I think you should know my answer - harvey1 - October 3, 2001 - 04:37 UTC
    - I did not know philosophy already has a name for it. - alexander - October 3, 2001 - 17:45 UTC
      - Clarification - harvey1 - October 3, 2001 - 18:17 UTC
        
        Correction - harvey1 - October 3, 2001 - 18:18 UTC
        
        But what do you think about lack of "physical" objects/concepts? - alexander - October 3, 2001 - 19:14 UTC
        
        You don't want to know - harvey1 - October 3, 2001 - 19:39 UTC
        
        I'd rather call it materialism. - alexander - October 3, 2001 - 20:07 UTC
        
        I knew you weren't gonna like it - harvey1 - October 3, 2001 - 20:52 UTC
      - Mathematical idealism - harvey1 - October 3, 2001 - 21:28 UTC
        
        Clarification - harvey1 - October 4, 2001 - 02:19 UTC
        
        Harvey, what is your opinion about philosophy in general and - alexander - October 4, 2001 - 21:23 UTC
        
        Philosophy - harvey1 - October 4, 2001 - 22:57 UTC

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