Hey bzrd, I hope you don't see this as a smart alec response, I have seen a few on this site. I just want to get my position accross like you do. This is more explaination than apology, but has elements of both, for we both have our beliefs and they are meaningful to us. I say all this because no matter how much flak one takes from another, on must realize that all people cannot be catagorized be labels, such as Athiest=hater of religion, or christian=fanatic know what I mean? So I ask your understanding rather than your forgiveness. And this is my way of offering mine as well. It makes one feel good.