: Greg, I appreciate your input on Einsteins theory. My understanding of physics is rudimentary at best, so fine; I accept your argument that my definition of time is invalid.

Perhaps some things are objective, but it does not follow that since we know some objective facts, that it can ever be possible to know them all. You suggest that through the creation of measuring devices, we can know exactly what the objective reality consists of. It's presumptuous to believe that science will solve all mysteries.

You said that : "We know that our five senses are not adequate to perceive all of reality, that is why we produce instruments that can translate reality into a view our five senses." I don't believe that the mere fact that we're able to create measuring instruments is relevant. We still have only 5 senses (presumably), and these instruments are merely an extension of them. Brad also agrees, and acknowledges the possibilities of the existence of a 6th, 7th, 8th, etc. etc. sense to interpret the things we don't understand. My argument remains, being humans is its own bias and our human senses are a smoke screen.

You also said: "Now, allow me to suggest to you that the Universe is the way it is because God made it that way. Also, that He made it so that the Life Created in that Universe would perceive it, even as it was made. This being the case, it is available for us to perceive reality even as, in fact, it IS. God does not mean to deceive us, but He has given us Free-Will, and thus we are prone to error."

I Being an atheist, you aren't going to convince me that our senses aren't flawed by appealing to a supreme omnipotent deity are you? You ask me to accept the premise that God exists to a conclusion that our senses aren't flawed.