: ***Yes, and once you put these generalities over to the side, what is left of each and every reigions god is a human being, "gods" anger, love, hate, change of heart, mistakes, pity, sorrow, playfulness, creativity, even lust. : It is all there. So by definition it is one of perfection, but in (supposed) actions it is one of al to human imperfection. This is a natural outcome of gods creators bias, it could be no other way.

: : You seem to agree with me on the point that the conception of God is that of a magnified man who is still flawed, but a man nonetheless. But how do you determine that any event was an act of God? How do distinguish a random act of nature, from an all out sign or miracle from God? You need to understand that things we once thought were miracles can now be explained through science. For example, it is possible that early man believed fire to be something supernatural, a gift from the Gods to heat and warm them. Of course science explains fire as a natural phenomen, occuring when the conditions of heat, fuel, and oxygen are present. : I'm not asking you to prove what actions are God's and which aren't, I merely saying that surely there is some sort of conditions that must be satisfied for something to be deemed an act of God.

***I agree with you on all of these things, I don't know where I misled you, I don't believe in miricals from a god, and agree totally with reigion explaining what could not be explained in the past which now is explained by science. When I was a very religious man, I experianced many things that it is unusual for a single person to experiance over a lifetime. On example that is not to unbelievable is when I was living in St Thomas where I spent the majority of my youth, as I walked up a seldom used road on one of the higer mountains in the rain, I heard a whistling sound as if someome were blowing over the top of a bottle, as it grew louder it began to come in a series "whooo, whooo, whooo, whooo" and just as I realized it was coming from above, I looked up and saw a huge toad come out of the sky and land directly in front of me. I was stunned, disbelieving my own eyes. After a moment it began to hop away. Looking back I can understand that it was most likely picked up by a funnel cloud, like raining manna... and was even at that time explained by science. But at the time I had to come up with an explaination, and when I told my tale to others I was either disbelived or told it was a good sign from you know who. The last line in my post my have been a difficult one to make out, what it means is that we created god with our own human biases built in, and that it had to be this way because stories were needed to give a recognizable symbol of god, for it is very hard to comprehend something simply by definitions such as being all powerful, all knowing and all present, so as we created more details, we added in the only things we knew, ourselves. Sorry about that. By the way, I have heard of an experiment done in the area of quantam physics I believe it was, using electrons and trap doors which seem to suggest that there is in fact an instantanious back and forth communication between any two points in the universe. Meaning that there is an "awareness" of the entire universe by these particals, or connection you might call it. Have you heard of it? I might look the professor up and get him to give me some info.

• Re: My bad - tenacious - September 30, 1999 - 20:09 UTC
  • No problemo man - phil.o.sfir - October 2, 1999 - 04:24 UTC
    • -wha? - tenacious - October 2, 1999 - 20:52 UTC