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Consider:

How know left hand from right?

By try a task, one is weaker?

The comparison (photon) allows me to know.

How know it was easier or harder in 2nd than in 1st task?

If return to 1st task and it STILL was say easier you say? It is conserved relationship?

If the task kept switching (relative your perspective) becoming harder or easier but was different when not testing it: you can not see that?

No time to finish......

"electron" as the possible viewpoints of "order of 1st and 2nd"

So "electron" is like "brackets" in a math expresssion.

Hydrogen 1: proton: 1st see 2nd
electron: possible view of proton is 1st see 2nd; 2nd see 1st
spin of electron: proton's view of it: "make a choice, am I (1,2) or (2,1) ?
"Make a choice" is say "spin up".

Hydrogen 2: proton: 1st see 2nd
neutron: 2nd see first

this say implies: 1st,1st,2nd,2nd
but where also you can choose which "1st" is first and which "2nd" is second; this might look from outside like 8 gluons binding the quarks?

Binding by a strong confining force (a freedom surface of "make your pick" so confining phase of "choose one only" say?

Proton's view of electron in hydrogen2 atom is:
already got a choice in nucleus for 1st, 2nd order as (1st see 2nd) is a proton and (2nd see 1st) is a neutron.

Helium 3:

proton: 1st see 2nd
proton: 1st see 2nd

these two project a neutron of "2nd see 1st" say.

Two views possible of order of 1st, 2nd roles in nucleus: so two electrons: spin up; spin down.

Helium 4:

proton: 1st see 2nd
proton: 1st see 2nd
these project a neutron: 2nd see 1st

Two neutrons project virtual protons but these interfere with actual protons to get two virtual virtual neutrons and a virtual virtual virtual proton seen by nucleus protons as two views of proton so two electrons?

-dolphin

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