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 Be the first pioneers to continue the Astronomy Discussions at our new Astronomy meeting place...The Space and Astronomy Agora Re: He Tells Me To Study Physics.I Tell Him Physics Works Only On Earth. Forum List | Follow Ups | Post Message | Back to Thread Topics | In Response ToPosted by TJ on January 26, 2000 12:36:51 UTC

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: : Prove E=mc2 in black hole . Then I will humbly agree i was typing nonsense here. : : This is one of the areas in the Universe where the above equation will fail. : : Laws of physics are okay on earth since the forces are in smaller magnitudes : : But when it comes to Higher Magnitudes E proportionally increases in comparison to mc2 there should also be some other factor evolved to match with E.

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: Ok, I'll prove it. The magnitude of any tensor is invariant so We'll define the mass of a particle as the magnitude of its momentum four vector divided by the speed of light : m = (gmnPnPm)1/2/c : To find how this is related to energy, in a black hole or not, transform to the particles local free fall frame. Because we are in the particle's frame : P1 = P2 = P3 = 0 and because we are local to the particle P0 = E0/c and gmn transformed to diag(1, -1, -1, -1). Therefor : m = [(1)(E0/c)(E0/c)]1/2/c : m = E0/c2 : E0 = mc2

/*****************************************/ In black holes what is a particle a atom ,a neutron,a photon or what Now velocity of light in A black Hole has to be close to zero c close to zero. Then mass in that accumulated area of say 5km is extremely high . Energy inside the black hole is exceptionally high. Now Please explain me the above equation since there is attractive force which is existing in here because of presumably heavy mass. This force is attracting all other energies around it Making itself a huge source ball of energy.

To what part of the equation relates to what since you utilised particle theory to explain the above . I would rather use a physical entity like heavy atom ,neutron or electrons which undoubtedly have to exist in a Black hole though they are crushed to a extent. there is no movement among them. If nothing moves c has to be zero if c is close to zero then E has to be close to zero. But this is absolutely not since E is proportionately very large.

ThanKs..