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Re: Thanx For Being So Harsh DER That Was Sarcasm

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Posted by Morgan Storey/">Morgan Storey on January 18, 2000 14:08:03 UTC

: Actually, no. The point is a valid one but I trust Relativity to be a reasonable description of how spacetime behaves.

But it is said that in a blackhole the laws of physics fail, the laws of relativity fail.

: You missed the point I believe. Special and General Relativity says time is measured differently depending on the observor and is affected by Gravity and Velocity. The same theory predicts Holes. The existence of Black Holes supports Relativity. This lends credence to Relativities description of how time works.

I agree that time is affected by gravity, that is almost what Iam saying to a point.

: To say Black Holes make time is a contradiction of this. It is a logical absurdity.

No they don't make time... they just make it flow there is a difference. Humans "made" time, it is a human construct based completely around our live's.

: I would really like to see it as Abian refused point blank to even try and provide proof himself, claiming it was so obvious no proof was needed. Dr. Abian is also very dead.

Well as I read it on the net Iam taking it with a grain (no make that 2) of salt. But it detailed that an Abian as it was now termed was discovered... well actually I'd say it's effects were discovered or it's shadow as it is smaller than a Quark. the article was nice and vague.

: You're not a re-incarnation of him are you?

Well, considering I don't believe in reincarnation, I can't be.

: You would measure the differentiation of the two clocks the one closer to the blackhole and the one further away.

: And you would find that the difference would agree with General Relativity. This trick has been done but the clocks involved where particles travelling at relativistic velocities around accretion disks and jets.

And you missed the point, one clock on earth(point a), is then synchronised with a clock 30 billion kilometeres towards the centre of the galaxy(point b), the clock remains at point b for possibly two hours and if my theory is correct you should slowly see the clocks un-synchronise, the one at point b moving slightly faster, it would only be a millionth of a second after two hours but it would be enough.

: Why not prescribe this theory to them to, if the curve and bend spacetime then why would they not also drag spacetime to them.

: Look up Frame Dragging.

HUH, what the hell is frame dragging.

To finish this I will quote one very famous and Intelligent person, "The greatest pain, is the pain of a new idea." Edison.

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