: : but remember above are all views take or leave it. : ------------ : And in this view, we live. : ------------ : Three 'level'. : ------------- : ------------- : ---------------------------------- : 1. Empty. RAjesh : There is never a Empty : - nothing Rajesh There is a never nothing Its still a matter : - zero Rajesh : Zero is much more a human thing introduced by human beings thats us. Aryabhatta introduced in particular Zero to simplify certain things : - non energy there is nothing like non Energy . Energy is our Universe so no way U can create NON ENERGY in Energy Universe.

: - 0

: - space without matter Our space is always with matter.

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: 2. 'Sensing' matter. : - matter exist : - move : - F=ma

Rajesh This is true in our world Earth but may not be beyond our world.

: - E=mc^2

Rajesh: No doubts about that This holds true till the point the Black hole come to picture. If we consider relativity Then Equation may not be what it should be . Consider this view a car is moving on a road . This road is on planet earth which is moving around the sun and earth itself rotates. Now sun is part of galaxy Milky way which is rotating round central black hole. Galaxy itself is moving all with unknown speed and acceleration and influence of light etc. There are still unknown forces which are to be considered when applying the above equation. But It holds good when we apply it our earth. : - etc.

: ------ : 3. Nonsensing matter.

: - light Rajesh :we say it photons , Quantum THEORY ,Wave theory to explain the phenomenon. Its energy in simple terms.Using space for propogating itself since nothing else is stopping it and its happening.

: - radiowaves

: - 'gravity force' : - our 'mind' : - small particles : - etc. : ---------------------

: Level 2+3 is same-matter. : We commonly sense only level 2.

Rajesh: we understand probably 2 much clearly. : We cannot measure level 3, because it is so small. Rajesh : We have our explanations here and we might be totally wrong. : Level 1, is space, where level 2-3, exist. : --------

: Because common-nature control is in level, 2-3, our mind is matter-thing? And therefore matter thing (which keeps planets together), has 'conncess', 'mind'. And therefore, because, nature-matter has 'mind', to understand, feel, read, speak,, therefore, mind is matter-thing, like you and me.

Rajesh : good point thats the reason we are discussing this.Matter has its own views right. Matter itself maybe wrong and maybe right.

: If matter has in space, constant amount, then all matter has born at same time. Time zero. It is like a 'tube' Otherwise, if not constant amount, it is then, like cone.

Rajesh : This will AGAIN LEAD TO SAME QUESTION WHETHER MATTER EXISTED BY ITSELF OR IT WAS CREATED BY SOME PHENOMENON. aND RESULT IS WE WILL NEVER KNOW. So it is always better to postulate Matter existed and energy in universe is constant and beyond our realms to understand if we say energy is increasing for nothing or universe is expanding. Whats can be achieved is Energy of the whole Universe and i mean the whole thing and begin our equations/and devising our theories from there. Though not plausible at this stage of the our life time some day in future millenium. Since even then energy of the universe will be constant.Nothing is given or taken in.

thats : 'Zero-time'-problem, is like, 'empty-box'-problem.

: 0--------------------------1 : zero-----------------------matter exist : nothing--------------------matter amount : no life--------------------living matter : no size--------------------big space

: Life, living space, is amazing thing. : -----------------------

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