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Posted by David Tate/">David Tate on January 18, 1998 15:06:56 UTC

: You are ignoring what I said about the universe not needing a supernatural force to get it started--it is self-generating-- meaning it can happen on its own. Just because something is amazing doesn't mean that it is not a physical process. The reason that our universe has the properties to allow life which is known to us can be described by the Anthropic Principle. Since a near infinite number of other iniverses may also have been created with ours, it is possible that at least one of them would posses the properties necessary to allow life as we know it to develop. It seems fitting that we would only be able to BE in a universe that supports the existance of life. : Thankyou for the reassurance about the statement about Hawking, really needed it..... : What I mean is that science in general has revealed to us that nature can be explained according to the cause and effect relationships which exists between every natural phenomena, and that these relationships can NOT be broken. Physics does not take "a stab" at explaining the universe, but rather we (as in scientists) are constantly uncovering the physics (as in mathematics) which exists in nature. Since this same physics was happenning in the universe before us, and will continue to occur after us, that shows that physics is inherent in nature, and not an invention of man. : I don't know how you figure that singularities are not allowed by the laws of physics. If they weren't, they wouldn't exist. Please do not try to bring up the argument about infinite densities and masses, because General Relativity is a classic theory ie-it does not incoporate quantum mechanics, which by the way, describes singularities beautifully.

There is a lot to reply to here, but lets start with the first paragraph...

I thought that if we go back to 10 - 47 seconds (or something like that)the laws of physics broke down?

I think the infinite universe theory is just that, unless you can put me strait on it. I have to say that to believe that makes things much more fatalistic than believing in "God".... ... Well it happened that way because we are in this universe, if we were in another universe it would have happened differently. However maybe we should leave this discussion to the science and God forum.

be an easy way out of trying to answer qu

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