How could a stellar mass blackhole or supernova type black hole ever reach the critical mass of creating a schwarzschild radii? (or event horizon)

As it is collapsing upon itself, time is exponentially 'speeding' up; from the outside reference point of view.

It seems to me that it would approach infinitely close to this radius from an outside observation, but from the reference within the T/S of the blackhole it would reach it no problem.

However, this brings about a problem. When we approach to curve space infinitely, we also approach to curve time infinitely. Therefore, how can we have both take place in our expanding/contracting (you pick) universe.

There cannot be two beasts living in the same cage.

can there?

The only way I can accept the theory of a 'blackhole' would be to assume that they merely approach infinitism. But because they do approach infinity, the light emitted is infinitely dim and doppler shifted.

I cannot accept that blackholes pull outside matter beyond their event horizon. This would be impossible within our finite universe.

comments?

(And I realize that from the blackholes reference frame it would have no problem collapsing to this radius, and pulling in matter... But that is exactly what defines a blackhole. A true "blackhole" would be only truely defined as such in its own immediate surrounding S/T.)

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• Re: Schwarzschild radius - Robert_Liu/">Robert Liu - March 18, 1999 - 22:18 UTC
• RE: Schwarzschild radius - Particle_Physics - July 17, 2000 - 19:44 UTC