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: : : : You are not understanding this. This isn't about a : : : giant 3d box. It's about giant 4d "box". : : It is an 3D box, because time is not an issue. : : What I am saying is that by creating the plane YOU create the borders. : : Which does not automaticly there is nothing beyond the borders you create.

: OK, I see that you are in the wrongest track. : So please read next few lines very carefully.

: : It IS a 4D (4 "spatial" dimensions without time). : 2D creatures can't escape from the sphere which is : 3D (without time).

: 3D creatures can't escape from the 4D "sphere"(of : course this is not a sphere since is 4 dimensional).

: That's what I am saying. When I am talking about : 4D I don't include time because, like you said, : time is not an issue here.

: 4th dimension ("spatial" dimension, not time) : isn't something we can imagine, so maybe that's : why it gets so confusing some times.

: That's why I tryed to simplify it a little bit, : transfering 3D to 2D. Now if 2D is the maximum : number of dimensions (that's true for those imaginary : 2D creatures), it is easy for us to understand the : dimension they can't understand.

: Now, let's get complicated, let's include time. : We are living in spacetime (4D space + 1D time = 5D spacetime) : which 3 space dimensions are wrapped around 4th and : all this includes time, so we have a 5D spacetime. (Hey it's just a theory)

: All matter is 3D spatialy extended(Einstein), that's : why it can't go pass the 4D enclosure.

: If you would draw a lines from one point in space, : they would meet at 2 points. One would be at the other : "side" of 4D enclosure, and the other would be startpoint.

: I hope you are understanding now.

: Tomislav

I understand what you mean, but you are wrong. From a mathematical point of view you can draw a infinit 2D line in a 3D environment (X=Y). Same goes for a 3D line in a 4D environment (Z=X+Y). The main problem is that our mind can't grasp infinty. Let alone an infite dimension wrapped around an other infinit dimension. My point is that the Nth dimension has no influence on the infinity of the N-1th dimension. (ie. an inifit line in 2D (x=y) is also infinit in 3D). If not it has to be easy to describe the 3D coordinates of the begin and end points of a 2D infinit line. If you can give me those, I'll accept them as evidence for your theory. If you can't find them doesn't that prove taht a infinit 2D line is infinit in 3D?

Gerwin

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