I have noticed that when a solution works and is accepted and it becomes tradition or part of the culture. The brightest minds are affected by this as much as those of us who are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. I noticed that you did not base your opinion on the logical aspects of each theory comparing them, but instead referred to the solutions others have come to. In my opinion this is why Einstein was able to find a solution that the greatest minds of his day overlooked. They refused to look at an idea objectively but based there thoughts on a previous determination which was formed with less information. I was not Newton’s fault that his theory has a slight error. It may be that with the information available to Einstein, he would have proposed a similar theory. If we forget how we got here we are doomed to repeat our error. The closed galaxy idea may not be the fork in the road we miss, but it will come sooner or later.

If the closed galaxy model is incorrect it would seem that it could be proved incorrect easily and indeed you may have done that with the information you gave me. I will have to consider each of your comments. My only concern is that I do not have the intelligence to give the closed galaxy idea an even comparison. If it is my thoughts against the greatest minds in the culture there will not be a fair trial. I don’t know if I can logically determine the idea is wrong. It may be a very intelligent person would be able to compose a closed galaxy model which is correct. I am curious about what would happen if you tried to compose a correct model.

Einstein questioned the ideas of the day because new information was available which could not be understood within the constraints of the scientific thoughts of his day, even after much time and effort was spent trying to reconcile them. Even with the little I understanding I have of the current thought of the day. An ever expanding universe, galaxies which look like they are distorted, missing mass and I bet you could add a lot more to the list then I have. It would seem that the process by which we arrive here should be documented and questioned freely.

It is amazing to me how much resistance there to anyone who attempts this, as if it were a personal attack.

How odd,... that last statement I made sounds like a description of the conversations on this web page.

• Didn't you admit the closed universe idea was wrong - yaniru - November 19, 2002 - 19:20 UTC
  • My model is,but I'm not qualified to make one. - duordi - November 19, 2002 - 23:19 UTC
    • Everyone only plays a part & you are - quiet - November 20, 2002 - 04:50 UTC
      • Thanks, I needed that. *nt* - duordi - November 21, 2002 - 02:19 UTC
• Curious - cosmotiger - November 19, 2002 - 20:57 UTC
  • It may have been Einstein's wife - yaniru - November 19, 2002 - 21:31 UTC
    • Interesting - cosmotiger - November 19, 2002 - 22:23 UTC
      • So I need to marry the right girl, is that it? *nt* - duordi - November 19, 2002 - 23:25 UTC
        • Well, that's always true *nt* - cosmotiger - November 19, 2002 - 23:55 UTC
          • Been there, done that. *nt* - duordi - November 20, 2002 - 00:37 UTC
      • Women could not get university positions then - yaniru - November 20, 2002 - 02:15 UTC
        • My great aunt was an asst. chief in U.S. Patent Office, 1940s - quiet - November 20, 2002 - 04:11 UTC
        • Did she have a journal? - duordi - November 21, 2002 - 02:22 UTC
          • 1st wife, according to Physics Today(nt) - yaniru - November 21, 2002 - 14:37 UTC
  • You know what they say... - quiet - November 20, 2002 - 05:28 UTC