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Posted by Alexander on September 17, 2001 18:28:29 UTC

If math would depend on humans, then universe would not obey it.

Pithagorean theorem or Shredinger or Newton equations would only be valid on Earth.

It is very common mistake - to believe that math is human invention, while it actually is just a discovery of universal logic by humans. Any existing "thing" be it object, rule or concept or universe itself, obeys math by definition of its own EXISTENCE. (0= does not exist, 1=exist - this is the origin of arithmetic from which algebra and calculus, etc., folows).

If you believe that SOMEBODY has to "label" things as 1 and 0 to start math - incorrect again.
Pithagorean theorem or Maxwell equations were accurate even before humans. As we can see them "in action" as photons arriving from distan corners of universe originating BEFORE first humans came to existence.

As to God being everywhere - you are absolutely correct, we just no longer call it God - we call it math (some prefer to call it natural laws, or nature). Indeed, math is everywhere and there is no phenomena which does not OBEY math.

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The scope of math - harvey1 - September 17, 2001 - 21:34 UTC
- Well, one could make the argument... - stormcrow - September 17, 2001 - 21:59 UTC
  - Everything else follows from math. - alexander - September 17, 2001 - 22:57 UTC
    - Alex and I never seem to agree on anything.... - smartguy - September 18, 2001 - 00:42 UTC
    - Beyond Math - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 15:28 UTC
      - But this is incomplete..... - smartguy - September 18, 2001 - 18:20 UTC
        
        Sure, we need to study the whole system - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 23:15 UTC
    - Everything Else follows from Math - petersand - September 18, 2001 - 18:44 UTC
  - We could make that argument, but... - harvey1 - September 18, 2001 - 05:04 UTC
    - Whaaaaa? - smartguy - September 18, 2001 - 19:16 UTC
      - Not what I'm talking about - harvey1 - September 18, 2001 - 20:41 UTC
- Math is the same in all universes - yanniru - September 18, 2001 - 14:13 UTC
  - Math isn't fully reduced - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 21:54 UTC
    - Math Isn't Fully reduced - petersand - September 21, 2001 - 20:33 UTC
      - Eyes wide open - dolphin - September 25, 2001 - 10:20 UTC
        
        Eyes Wide Open - petersand - September 27, 2001 - 18:17 UTC
misunderstanding - dolphin - September 18, 2001 - 14:08 UTC

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