Hi Mark,

>>>If a > b and b > c...then a has to be > c. Could you explain to me how this could have anything to do with the behavior of matter in the universe? This was mentaly derived and is an abstract axiom; it was in no way based on our physical universe.>. Have you ever laid your eyes upon an existing "point"? I should believe not. So I still believe that mathematics exists independant of any perceptions of physical objects......and is therefore not relyant upon matter.>My standing belief is that one of two is true.....
Math/logic and universe/matter are independant of eachother (co-existing independantly); or the universe was derived from the more fundamental of the two.......mathematics.>In the second case.....our universe is but one mathematical possibility amongst a multitude.