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Re: BIG BANG THEROY

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Posted by Steve Harris/">Steve Harris on October 12, 1999 18:02:09 UTC

The evidence is that if you look at far distant galaxies, the light coming from them is shifted toward the red, as if it were rising from a deep gravity well. Since there is no evidence for sufficient mass to do this, the red shift must be because those galaxies are - or were at the time they gave that light off -rushing away from us at a high speed. And that speed seems to increase as we look at galaxies farther and farther away. The first best guess is that there was a big bang. The guess is that the universe started as one gigantic nugget, an egg that exploded with terrific force. Matter went in all directions, with pieces that were farther apart after the first instant continuing to rush apart faster than those that were closer together at the same time. This is the Big Bang theory of the creation of the universe. Recent careful measurements have produced the awkward impression that the age of the universe is not so great as the age of some stars and some galaxies. But there are greater problems with the Big Bang.

But the Big Bang, now known by you and by anyone else who cares to think about it to be impossible, is widely advertized. It is a convenient myth, tolerated I suppose to keep us from the truth and from doing whatever naughty things the truth would lead us into. The truth must be that we are in a Black Hole in reversed time. I cannot imagine what those naughty things might be, but let us pursue the implications of reversed time.

As we look toward, let us say eight billion BC, a rough suggestion for the time of the Big Bang, in reversed time it becomes a Big Crunch. That should cause no surprise and no distress. Subjectively it happens in the past where we will never go, where we have neither opportunity nor responsibility. Whatever happens according to some postulated outside observer, it does not come near us.

As we look toward eight billion AD, (I must use AD and BC to avoid using "before" and "after." The traditional dates as commonly used are just labels.) there is alas a difference. According to Big Bang theory the universe continues to expand and cool at least until that date with no event dramatic on any cosmic scale. Oh galaxies explode, galaxies shoot out jets that destroy neighboring galaxies, whole galaxy clusters get sucked down Black Holes, but nothing really big happens. For must of us it will be business as usual, death and taxes until our sun and our sons all die. Right comforting, actually, if a little depressing.

By eight billion AD in Big Crunch theory, things are very different.

Take the statement dear to all students of French, "My grandmother's cat is under the desk." The cat is maybe a couple of kilograms of mostly water at a temperature of about forty degrees celsius in a space that measures about one meter by one meter by two meters. That is enough information to give some number for the value of the information using classical thermodynamics. But say it is a ceramic cat and granny left the window open so the temperature has fallen (this isn't Florida) to absolute zero. What now? Classical equations tell us the energy represented by knowing where the cat is is zero. What is it actually?

So there is the myth. Relativity is not a myth; it is the Big Bang theory that is a myth, nay a convenient a false myth, because as you see it cannot possibly be true. And the converse, although not proven, could quite possibly be true.

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