"1) That we have free will?"

Yes we have free will. We are not robots desgined to worship God. That is obvious because you have chosen not to. I have.

"2) That God has a plan for this universe, and can see the future?"

I good question which has been the subject of many debates, and many christians believe differently. I'm not sure what Aaron is going to say, and I'm not sure he will agree with what I say. But, here is what I believe.

"If your lot in life is preordained, by what right does God predestine you for an eternity of bliss or suffering?"

I believe God can see the future. But I do not believe our lot in life is preordained. Bear with me here. God gives us a choice. Either to accept him or not to. He does not force us into either. We have the choice in what to pick. But, I believe God knows what we are going to pick. That does not mean he predestined us to go to heaven or hell, like I said, its our choice, but he knows what is going to happen.

"To punish someone for wrongs that they commited through no alternative on their part requires a god so arbitrary and cruel that it defies imagination."

No alternative on there part? Why is there no alternative on their part? God does not force anybody to do anything. He simply knows what is going to be picked.

"The Fundamentalist view of God is that of a sadist and a tyrant, designing humans with flaws they cannot escape from and then punishing them for it."

Cannot escape? I have escaped my flaws by asking God to forgive me. It's your choice. Hope that is what you wanted :). KC2GWX 73's

• No, Sam and Aaron, no - stormcrow - May 29, 2002 - 14:48 UTC
  • I don't think so. - kc2gwx - May 29, 2002 - 17:21 UTC
    • Can anyone say..... sanctimonious - darwinpoodle - May 29, 2002 - 17:43 UTC
      • sangk-te-mo-ne-us - kc2gwx - May 29, 2002 - 19:17 UTC
        • Third alternative: - stormcrow - May 29, 2002 - 19:27 UTC
          • Once again....read your Bible! - kc2gwx - May 29, 2002 - 21:47 UTC
            • Okay, time for some harshness - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 02:12 UTC
              • Wholly Babble? Not funny. - kc2gwx - May 30, 2002 - 02:43 UTC
                • Aw, I thought it was kinda funny. In a non-funny kind of way - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 02:49 UTC
                  • Sidenote - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 02:51 UTC
                  • Non-funny is right :) - kc2gwx - May 30, 2002 - 04:40 UTC
              • Thy Harshness is Not Potent Except When U R Frightened - kantolfir2 - May 30, 2002 - 02:55 UTC
                • Thy Words Posess the Distinct Odour of an Undrained Bed Pan, Sir - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 03:14 UTC
                  • Correcteth, Have I, Ye Olde Typographical Errors - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 03:17 UTC
                    • Thee have but little else - carefuluniverse - May 30, 2002 - 03:42 UTC
                      • Once again, thine title is 2100% larger than thine post - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 03:46 UTC
                        • Willest thou close thine mouth. - kc2gwx - May 30, 2002 - 04:44 UTC
                          • But.... but Whittier started it! - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 05:28 UTC
                            • K - kc2gwx - May 30, 2002 - 15:55 UTC
                          • Your character no longer stands up - carefuluniverse - May 30, 2002 - 05:35 UTC
                            • Is this to me? - kc2gwx - May 30, 2002 - 15:53 UTC
                              • I don't know - carefuluniverse - May 30, 2002 - 17:33 UTC
                  • Per Usual, Thy words begin with Impossibilty and run downhill - carefuluniverse - May 30, 2002 - 03:45 UTC
                    • Pixelous Odors Aside, the Stench Doth Emenate From Mine Monitor - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 03:48 UTC
                      • astronomy, god and science - carefuluniverse - May 30, 2002 - 05:40 UTC
                      • astronomy, god and science - carefuluniverse - May 30, 2002 - 05:40 UTC
        • Hi Sam - darwinpoodle - May 29, 2002 - 19:33 UTC
          • Son's and children - kc2gwx - May 29, 2002 - 21:27 UTC
    • Not really - stormcrow - May 29, 2002 - 17:50 UTC
      • Is God making you respond? - kc2gwx - May 30, 2002 - 04:52 UTC
        • Yes! (assuming your vision of God) - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 05:27 UTC
          • Sorry, I still disagree. - kc2gwx - May 30, 2002 - 16:28 UTC
            • I am thunderstruck that you can't get this - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 17:28 UTC
              • This is getting old - kc2gwx - May 30, 2002 - 17:47 UTC
                • Well, I'm not giving up on you :) - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 18:01 UTC
                  • Quick - kc2gwx - May 30, 2002 - 18:10 UTC
                    • Eh? - stormcrow - May 30, 2002 - 19:08 UTC