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Posted by Richard Ruquist on September 14, 2003 11:38:09 UTC

Every now and then a poster like yourself comes along and purports to take the bible literally. Althought you have not specifically made this statement, I presume that you would agree with me that you take the bible literally as the word of god.

The bottomline in every case is that both you and I take the bible literally. We just take different parts literally. I take what Jesus said literally and you take what some jewish rabbis said literally.

I would be happy to be more specific.

Richard Ruquist
The Yanniru Foundation

Follow Ups:

BIBLE_BELIEVER account inaccessible - bible_believer2 - September 25, 2003 - 15:39 UTC
- Responses Chapter One, Verses 1-21 - yanniru - September 25, 2003 - 17:23 UTC
  - BIBLE_BELIEVER2 account inaccessible - bible_believer3 - September 29, 2003 - 15:53 UTC
    - “Ye must be born again.” - yanniru - September 29, 2003 - 20:52 UTC
      - born of the Spirit - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 13:18 UTC
        
        Wrong interpretation - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 15:00 UTC
        
        Another wrong interpretation - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 15:55 UTC
        
        Show me where Jesus said that - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 15:57 UTC
        
        Who can know Jesus ? - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 16:20 UTC
        
        Agreed - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 16:30 UTC
        
        Hope for more agreement - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 19:20 UTC
        
        Sorry - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 23:24 UTC
    - Symbolic truth - yanniru - September 29, 2003 - 20:54 UTC
      - Why not literal ? - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 13:19 UTC
        
        Because literal is proven false - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 15:04 UTC
        
        Something that bugs me too! - littleorangenin - September 30, 2003 - 15:35 UTC
        
        I am deeply religious - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 16:21 UTC
        
        Your sincerity makes my heart break - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 17:41 UTC
        
        I wrote an answer to every comment above - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 18:36 UTC
        
        My comment about your sincerity is not sarcasm. - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 19:24 UTC
        
        No sarcasm intended. - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 23:26 UTC
        
        Searching for the truth - yanniru - October 1, 2003 - 13:07 UTC
        
        Thou shalt stop going to church ? - bible_believer3 - October 9, 2003 - 13:54 UTC
        
        There exists but one god - yanniru - October 9, 2003 - 14:56 UTC
        
        Narrow minded - bible_believer3 - October 9, 2003 - 15:22 UTC
        
        Gotcha- you thought you were going to get away - yanniru - October 9, 2003 - 16:09 UTC
        
        churches ?, Trinity ? - bible_believer3 - October 9, 2003 - 16:36 UTC
        
        Well versed on the Trinity, thank you - yanniru - October 10, 2003 - 01:38 UTC
        
        Which Trinity ? - bible_believer3 - October 10, 2003 - 10:58 UTC
        
        Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God and God the Father is Go - yanniru - October 11, 2003 - 02:17 UTC
        
        The one triune God, not just a concept. - bible_believer3 - October 14, 2003 - 15:28 UTC
        
        Some scripture - yanniru - October 14, 2003 - 23:33 UTC
        
        Some more scripture - bible_believer3 - October 16, 2003 - 21:26 UTC
        
        Lost data from this last post - bible_believer3 - October 17, 2003 - 10:53 UTC
        
        Last try - Isaiah 9:6 - bible_believer3 - October 17, 2003 - 11:03 UTC
        
        Jesus is the lamb - yanniru - October 17, 2003 - 12:20 UTC
        
        Agreed. - bible_believer3 - October 17, 2003 - 19:24 UTC
        
        It is exactly what Jesus said - yanniru - October 18, 2003 - 00:42 UTC
        
        Hung up on "literal" - bible_believer3 - October 23, 2003 - 21:50 UTC
        
        No- Some other mother - yanniru - October 24, 2003 - 12:04 UTC
        
        Only one mother - bible_believer3 - October 27, 2003 - 12:55 UTC
        
        Here is the scripture - yanniru - October 27, 2003 - 14:56 UTC
        
        Here is Hope - bible_believer3 - October 28, 2003 - 13:57 UTC
        
        Just a note about baptism - yanniru - October 28, 2003 - 18:19 UTC
        
        I don't understand the Note - bible_believer3 - October 30, 2003 - 16:11 UTC
        
        You are LOST - yanniru - October 30, 2003 - 19:07 UTC
        
        I know my Shepherd's voice - bible_believer3 - October 30, 2003 - 21:51 UTC
        
        We are missing 33 years - yanniru - October 17, 2003 - 11:09 UTC
        
        We have an additional 33 years - bible_believer3 - October 17, 2003 - 19:38 UTC
        
        The New Testament contradicts the Old - yanniru - October 18, 2003 - 00:45 UTC
        
        I don't follow your logic - bible_believer3 - October 23, 2003 - 21:48 UTC
        
        As a matter of fact - yanniru - October 24, 2003 - 13:19 UTC
        
        OK, fact you say now - bible_believer3 - October 27, 2003 - 12:57 UTC
        
        “sons” of God –vs- “Son” of God(only begotten) - bible_believer3 - October 17, 2003 - 11:23 UTC
        
        Jesus never said this - yanniru - October 17, 2003 - 12:23 UTC
        
        Have it your way - bible_believer3 - October 17, 2003 - 19:42 UTC
        
        The Holy Spirit comes with baptism - yanniru - October 17, 2003 - 12:26 UTC
        
        You had "water" baptism as a baby ? - bible_believer3 - October 17, 2003 - 19:48 UTC
        
        Baptist doctrine - yanniru - October 18, 2003 - 00:48 UTC
        
        XXX Doctrine - bible_believer3 - October 23, 2003 - 21:47 UTC
        
        I do not understand your logic - yanniru - October 24, 2003 - 13:28 UTC
        
        Please keep trying - You can have a guarantee - bible_believer3 - October 28, 2003 - 14:09 UTC
        
        Don't you realize by now that I have heard - yanniru - October 28, 2003 - 18:24 UTC
        
        Not for me to know, right ? - bible_believer3 - October 28, 2003 - 21:20 UTC
        
        To become sons of god - yanniru - October 29, 2003 - 01:19 UTC
        
        Forgiving is not forgiveness - bible_believer3 - October 30, 2003 - 15:59 UTC
        
        Do you understand channeling - yanniru - October 17, 2003 - 12:44 UTC
        
        Yes - bible_believer3 - October 17, 2003 - 20:26 UTC
        
        The physical body of Jesus does not exist - yanniru - October 18, 2003 - 00:53 UTC
        
        Luke 24:39 and Acts 1:11 beg to differ - bible_believer3 - October 23, 2003 - 21:19 UTC
        
        I believe that resurrection is a false doctrine - yanniru - October 24, 2003 - 13:45 UTC
        
        Maybe just misunderstood - bible_believer3 - October 30, 2003 - 16:08 UTC
        
        Scripture - yanniru - October 24, 2003 - 14:12 UTC
        
        Yes, maybe misunderstood - bible_believer3 - October 30, 2003 - 16:09 UTC
        
        Adam and Eve had sons and daughters - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 18:35 UTC
        
        Fair enough..... - littleorangenin - September 30, 2003 - 20:59 UTC
        
        Not religion - bible_believer3 - October 3, 2003 - 19:46 UTC
        
        All sins washed away - yanniru - October 4, 2003 - 12:24 UTC
        
        Mixing words ? sinner or still sin ? - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 11:12 UTC
        
        The time to be saved - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 12:40 UTC
        
        behold, now is the day of salvation - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 13:10 UTC
        
        I am born again in your sense of the word - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 16:05 UTC
        
        We have different senses of the same words - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 17:08 UTC
        
        Rome made Christianity a state religion in your sense - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 19:21 UTC
        
        Where did he say he wanted a state religion? - sound1 - October 7, 2003 - 02:31 UTC
        
        No where - bible_believer3 - October 7, 2003 - 12:12 UTC
        
        I agree, but ... - bible_believer3 - October 7, 2003 - 12:10 UTC
        
        Do not be like the Gentiles - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 14:07 UTC
        
        Love your brother - bible_believer3 - October 23, 2003 - 21:43 UTC
        
        Your literal missed a part - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 16:03 UTC
        
        Did not Jesus teach you to become Jewish - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 16:13 UTC
    - I do not hold to the Torah or Talmud as the inspired word of God - yanniru - September 29, 2003 - 21:05 UTC
      - Which Bible ? - Clarification - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 13:20 UTC
        
        I am laughing at you - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 15:07 UTC
        
        I am laughing with you - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 15:43 UTC
        
        Not a very good answer - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 16:02 UTC
        
        The Christian Bible is about the Jews - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 19:36 UTC
        
        The gentiles are commanded to observe - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 23:32 UTC
        
        difficulty finding it - Help ? - bible_believer3 - October 3, 2003 - 19:15 UTC
        
        Searching for ever - yanniru - October 4, 2003 - 13:27 UTC
        
        "Forever" is "all time" - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 11:53 UTC
        
        Jesus was circumcized - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 12:48 UTC
        
        Jesus kept ALL the law - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 13:24 UTC
        
        If you follow Christ, you have to keep the law as well - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 15:53 UTC
        
        I follow Christ who is not a sinner - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 16:45 UTC
        
        You only fail if you give up trying - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 17:02 UTC
        
        Never give up trying to find the truth - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 18:47 UTC
        
        No, I was just too lazy. ( a sin ) - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 19:29 UTC
        
        Pilgrims progress - bible_believer3 - October 7, 2003 - 12:04 UTC
        
        Yes - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 14:12 UTC
        
        No - bible_believer3 - October 23, 2003 - 21:38 UTC
        
        Typogrphical correction - compare - bible_believer3 - October 7, 2003 - 11:35 UTC
        
        Your spirit returns to god - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 23:51 UTC
        
        Warmest regards, but I cannot chase illogic - bible_believer3 - October 9, 2003 - 14:01 UTC
        
        Gentiles just do not understand - yanniru - October 9, 2003 - 15:09 UTC
        
        Now I understand, You are wise. - bible_believer3 - October 9, 2003 - 15:42 UTC
        
        The vast majority of Jews and Christians reject evolution as com - yanniru - October 9, 2003 - 16:12 UTC
        
        as Com ? What is "Com" ? - bible_believer3 - October 9, 2003 - 16:40 UTC
        
        I was quoting you - yanniru - October 10, 2003 - 01:41 UTC
        
        Survey says - bible_believer3 - October 23, 2003 - 21:35 UTC
        
        Two Great Commandments !! - sound1 - October 3, 2003 - 20:31 UTC
        
        Jesus said you had to keep all the laws of Moses - yanniru - October 4, 2003 - 12:26 UTC
        
        Where did He say this ? B,C,V ? - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 12:07 UTC
        
        Just pray in private - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 13:00 UTC
        
        What is "in private" ? - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 13:55 UTC
        
        Even in a crowded room, my prayers are private. - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 16:15 UTC
        
        May you find His grace - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 18:44 UTC
        
        Apparently god expects more from me than you - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 19:36 UTC
        
        I sin in word, thought, and deed - everyday - bible_believer3 - October 7, 2003 - 12:53 UTC
        
        They are not the words of Jesus - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 19:19 UTC
        
        Comparison of the words of Jesus to those of John - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 19:27 UTC
        
        You lost me a little out of context - bible_believer3 - October 7, 2003 - 21:00 UTC
        
        Please notice the end of quotes at enr of 15 - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 22:30 UTC
        
        Which Bible ? - bible_believer3 - October 9, 2003 - 13:59 UTC
        
        The Good News bible and the Revised Standard Version - yanniru - October 9, 2003 - 15:25 UTC
        
        See http://www.astronomy.net/forums/bigbang/messages/472.shtml - bible_believer3 - October 14, 2003 - 15:29 UTC
        
        No so- We have covered that - yanniru - October 14, 2003 - 23:15 UTC
        
        Here are the scriptures on this. - sound1 - October 7, 2003 - 02:19 UTC
        
        More scripture - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 11:14 UTC
        
        Written by the jews, of the jews and for the jews - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 23:33 UTC
        
        of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; - bible_believer3 - October 3, 2003 - 19:14 UTC
        
        I was only sent for the lost sheep of Israel - yanniru - October 4, 2003 - 14:06 UTC
        
        Agreed. "to" the Jews, but "for" all - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 12:21 UTC
        
        salvation is OF the Jews - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 13:02 UTC
        
        You missed my point - Judiaism is not Christianity - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 13:52 UTC
        
        No. I just twisted it a bit to make a point - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 16:26 UTC
        
        We are at counter points - Grace to you - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 18:46 UTC
        
        That is just not god's truth - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 19:40 UTC
        
        Let us continue to seek - bible_believer3 - October 7, 2003 - 14:18 UTC
        
        Saul is a jew - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 19:31 UTC
    - only Jews that keep the whole law could go to heaven - yanniru - September 29, 2003 - 21:07 UTC
      - whosoever will - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 13:21 UTC
        
        Jesus nevr used the word Christian - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 15:13 UTC
        
        Regarding being tricked by Satan.... - littleorangenin - September 30, 2003 - 15:53 UTC
        
        Not Satanism - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 16:08 UTC
        
        I agree - Satan needs very little help - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 20:36 UTC
        
        It's not about Satan. - littleorangenin - September 30, 2003 - 21:07 UTC
        
        I would gladly hear your own beliefs - bible_believer3 - October 3, 2003 - 20:28 UTC
        
        John 3:18 contradicts the words of Jesus - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 23:36 UTC
        
        John 3:18 - These ARE the words of Jesus - bible_believer3 - October 3, 2003 - 20:06 UTC
        
        No-Jesus stopped talking at the end of verse 15 - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 22:34 UTC
        
        See http://www.astronomy.net/forums/bigbang/messages/472.shtml - bible_believer3 - October 14, 2003 - 15:30 UTC
        
        I understand... - littleorangenin - September 30, 2003 - 21:03 UTC
        
        Satan never used the word Satanist - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 20:26 UTC
        
        The Old ztestament is Jewish - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 23:45 UTC
        
        The New Testament is Jewish - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 12:27 UTC
        
        To believe in Jesus means to believe his teachings - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 13:14 UTC
        
        To believe in Jesus means IN JESUS - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 14:13 UTC
        
        This discussion is reaching diminuishing returns - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 16:39 UTC
        
        May God bless His children - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 18:42 UTC
        
        I believe in the literal truth of the Gospel - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 11:44 UTC
        
        Did you intend this double neI do not doubt that it is not true. - bible_believer3 - October 7, 2003 - 13:21 UTC
        
        Sorry - previous posted in error - bible_believer3 - October 7, 2003 - 13:22 UTC
        
        What is the error - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 19:33 UTC
        
        Did you intend the double negative ? - bible_believer3 - October 7, 2003 - 14:32 UTC
        
        Sorry- Did not intend the double negative - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 19:37 UTC
        
        Ye must be born again - bible_believer3 - October 23, 2003 - 21:32 UTC
    - through a disannulling of the law - yanniru - September 29, 2003 - 21:09 UTC
      - Where did he say this ? - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 13:23 UTC
        
        Keeping all the law Matt5:19 below - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 15:24 UTC
        
        Except your righteousness execeed - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 20:43 UTC
        
        Faith alone is not what Jesus said - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 23:57 UTC
        
        Just your interpretation ? - bible_believer3 - October 9, 2003 - 13:56 UTC
        
        Sorry-I now agree - yanniru - October 9, 2003 - 16:15 UTC
        
        Sorry - now I disagree , The Rewards+ program - bible_believer3 - October 9, 2003 - 16:45 UTC
        
        no reply - yanniru - October 10, 2003 - 01:43 UTC
        
        If I choose not to decide, I still have made a choice. - bible_believer3 - October 10, 2003 - 11:10 UTC
        
        False Prophets-see below - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 15:25 UTC
        
        They shall deceive many - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 20:38 UTC
    - I have such a relationship - yanniru - September 29, 2003 - 21:12 UTC
      - Be careful who your relationship is really with - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 13:24 UTC
        
        Truth and falsehood - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 15:34 UTC
        
        Quick to judge ? - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 15:48 UTC
        
        No and Yes - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 15:55 UTC
        
        I believe it is bloody well is English - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 19:49 UTC
        
        Which translation was written by the Holy Spirit - yanniru - October 1, 2003 - 12:32 UTC
        
        Which translation written by the Holy Spirit - sound1 - October 2, 2003 - 07:43 UTC
        
        Not quite fulfilled - yanniru - October 2, 2003 - 12:33 UTC
        
        Still waiting for the great military leader - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 13:36 UTC
        
        Who's waiting for a great military leader? - sound1 - October 2, 2003 - 16:49 UTC
        
        Burn me once, shame on you - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 17:35 UTC
        
        Weilding great power - sound1 - October 2, 2003 - 18:20 UTC
        
        The sword of his mouth - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 18:44 UTC
        
        prophesy fulfillment ? - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 16:50 UTC
        
        Jesus-Yeshua is the Spirit of Prophecy - sound1 - October 2, 2003 - 17:21 UTC
        
        This sounds like "Big Bang" will have some merit after all - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 17:39 UTC
        
        One way to find out - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 13:31 UTC
        
        KJV Translation - sound1 - October 2, 2003 - 17:04 UTC
        
        speaking and writing, both are sure - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 17:56 UTC
        
        No Greek needed - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 18:04 UTC
    - BIBLE_BELIEVER2 Account Inaccessible - yanniru - September 29, 2003 - 21:16 UTC
      - Bible_Believer3 - This account is freely accessible. - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 13:17 UTC
        
        Here is what Jesus said - yanniru - September 30, 2003 - 15:50 UTC
        
        Here is what Jesus meant - bible_believer3 - September 30, 2003 - 20:08 UTC
        
        Direct quotes are most accurate - yanniru - October 1, 2003 - 00:06 UTC
        
        The Trinity is the eternal God - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 18:30 UTC
        
        Trinity never mentioned in scriptures? - sound1 - October 2, 2003 - 18:47 UTC
        
        Bible never mentioned in scripture. - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 19:02 UTC
        
        But scriptures and torah are mentioned all the time - yanniru - October 3, 2003 - 01:54 UTC
        
        Jesus's Prayer - sound1 - October 3, 2003 - 06:44 UTC
        
        I think the one god includes everything - yanniru - October 3, 2003 - 11:03 UTC
        
        "with God" will only include REALIZATION - bible_believer3 - October 3, 2003 - 13:54 UTC
        
        The eyes of your understanding being enlightened!! - sound1 - October 3, 2003 - 18:03 UTC
        
        One in Spirit and Truth - sound1 - October 3, 2003 - 17:34 UTC
        
        One what, three who's - Trinity - bible_believer3 - October 3, 2003 - 18:18 UTC
        
        I agree - sound1 - October 3, 2003 - 18:56 UTC
        
        How do you know what Jesus meant? - yanniru - October 1, 2003 - 00:09 UTC
        
        The Holy Spirit - bible_believer3 - October 2, 2003 - 18:39 UTC
        
        Delivery failure - yanniru - October 3, 2003 - 01:43 UTC
        
        Better at math than typing - bible_believer3 - October 3, 2003 - 15:04 UTC
        
        Can you pray too quietly ? - bible_believer3 - October 3, 2003 - 15:28 UTC
        
        God knows the difference - sound1 - October 3, 2003 - 18:18 UTC
        
        Go into your closet to pray? - sound1 - October 3, 2003 - 18:34 UTC
        
        Not in public - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 12:52 UTC
        
        Touch not the unclean thing - bible_believer3 - October 3, 2003 - 15:31 UTC
        
        The law was not anulled by Jesus - yanniru - October 6, 2003 - 15:15 UTC
        
        Good bye, my friend - bible_believer3 - October 6, 2003 - 18:43 UTC
        
        Gentiles only need great faith - yanniru - October 7, 2003 - 11:52 UTC
        
        Jews only need a little faith - bible_believer3 - October 23, 2003 - 21:24 UTC
Request for specifics - bible_believer2 - September 25, 2003 - 16:27 UTC

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